14 December 2005 @Will Kelly:I usually stuff all my hidden fields in the same paragraph as the submit button, it has no impact on the display. The only time this “restriction” is a problem is when you have a form with only hidden fields. You might have to create a special style to hide the wrapping element. @Bill:About Safari, I happen to be developping a site in HTML 4.01 strict and a CSS-only layout on my Windows PC and though I always test on several browsers on Windows I never test on Mac (don’t have one, please donate ;)). So when I tested on the designer’s machine (yes designers use Macs) on Safari, I was in for a shock: flawless rendering. Lazy developers got to love them web standards !